strredwolf: (Funny)
STrRedWolf ([personal profile] strredwolf) wrote2005-11-09 12:05 pm

Awfully funny...

My comic apparently got another link at Something Awful, and it gathered up some responce on [livejournal.com profile] stalag99 .  It also highlighted that I didn't set anonymous posting to be moderated (don't want to completely disable it).  This will make it slighly harder for the hordes over there to post (even though I'm logging their IP addresses already) as I belive there's a "Don't you dare ID yourself to them, or you're gone from us" rule over there.

Of course, if you're one of the goons comming from Something Awful and you think you can do better than me, then sign up and prove it.  May I also remind you that you should be listening to Reel Big Fish's A Little Doubt Goes a Long Way.

And now, for something different.  Scott Kutz just hit that sweet spot again in Tuesday's (which got posted today) PvP.  He's being topical (with both large lotteries being past the quarter-billion mark), and mixes a bit of unusual curdosy with the shock of hitting the big one.  It brighted me up.

[identity profile] sdtetsuo.livejournal.com 2005-11-09 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Fuck you, I'm a lion!

[identity profile] strredwolf.livejournal.com 2005-11-09 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
"Fursecution" you say. I say preditation.

[identity profile] sdtetsuo.livejournal.com 2005-11-09 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
You say "preditation," I say "Merriam-Webster."

[identity profile] prismo.livejournal.com 2005-11-09 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I must admit, I giggled a lot at PVP... that looks like something from a movie, I'm sure. Though I'm worried that Brent asked to do likewise. *O,o*

[identity profile] griffinwolf.livejournal.com 2005-11-09 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Man, they really didn't put any effort into insulting you nor your comic, did they?

Well, what can you expect from high-schoolers.

[identity profile] sdtetsuo.livejournal.com 2005-11-09 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, he obviously hasn't put any effort into the comic, why should anyone put any effort into bagging it?

[identity profile] griffinwolf.livejournal.com 2005-11-09 06:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Not so obvious to me, but then, I've actually tried writing a story, with a plot, characters and personalities, etc....

But then, I guess I'm not quite as enlightened as you are. You probably quarterback on Monday mornings from an armchair, don't you?

You want constructive critisism? Here you go.

[identity profile] feral-overture.livejournal.com 2005-11-10 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
No, I'm not a goon. Don't freak out and call me a quarterback. I hate sports.
And calling people 'quarterbacks' just to re-affirm your self appointed title of geek doesn't mean squat. Most people on SA aren't quarterbacks the last time I checked. And they may be, dare I say it, *geeks* too. I hear some of them are even *gasp* FURRIES! Save your high school insecurities for your next circle-jerk, ok?

I think your comic is a little slapped together. With your storyline, a three panel format just doesn't work. It's better suited to a comic with a new mini story arc each page, and to one which is humorous.

I can see that your drawing ability has improved minimally since your first page, but unless you plan on colouring, you should try minimalising your line art so it doesn’t look as messy. And the lack of backgrounds makes it hard to remember where the hell your characters are.

I also find it hard to follow the story without reading and re-reading until my soul dies just that little bit more.

And the mutant boobs scare me. Alot. They add this creepy, Freudian quality to the whole thing which is so prevalent in alot of the sci-fi furry comics. But who am I to judge your...style? You're not forcing me to look at it, but honestly, you can't have a web-comic without critics. That's what happens when you put *anything* on the net; people stumble upon it, see it, and they may not like it.

I am by no means a good artist, or even that great at drawing, but I think anyone can see what's wrong with your comic.

Re: You want constructive critisism? Here you go.

[identity profile] griffinwolf.livejournal.com 2005-11-10 03:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Um, for those younger kiddos out there, let's define your terms...

An Armchair Quarterback is a similar term for back-seat driver. It refers to someone who points out what to do right, though they have never done it themselves.

Back Seat driver is just someone who's sitting aside from what's going on, and telling someone what to in lieu of doing it themselves.

Besides, I'm not a geek, at least, I don't think I am... Maybe 6 years of college might have turned me into one... I know I wasn't when I first enrolled...

And lastly, I'm not the artist ;)

Re: You want constructive critisism? Here you go.

[identity profile] feral-overture.livejournal.com 2005-11-11 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Eheh. I was only referring to *your* post in the first paragraph; I should have pointed that out. My mistake.
The rest was for the artist, but I'm sure he'll get the message.

I can see what you mean by "armchair quarterback" now. I guess it was misinterpreted as the stupid "Oh yeah? Go play football JOCK! *nyaannyaa* :P" come back I see from many a person on the internet... ^^;

Re: You want constructive critisism? Here you go.

[identity profile] griffinwolf.livejournal.com 2005-11-11 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm too literate for that ;)

Re: You want constructive critisism? Here you go.

[identity profile] feral-overture.livejournal.com 2005-11-12 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
Internet rule #19873 : "If you can't find any fault in someone's statement and you don't like it, pretend they don't speak English or something!"

And you can't be *too* literate to read something. If anything, that points to some sort of reading difficulty on your part.

It's OK. Nothing to be ashamed of. :)

Re: You want constructive critisism? Here you go.

[identity profile] strredwolf.livejournal.com 2005-11-12 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
You're getting awfully close to evoking Godwin's law here, as you're now off topic. You may end it peacefully here by not posting at all.

[identity profile] sdtetsuo.livejournal.com 2005-11-11 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, you got that dramatically wrong on several counts, explicit and implicit.

Firstly, your assumption that somehow you're the only one here with any experience in working on creative writing is wrong. I actually make a living off my writing, and am published regularly in a monthly magazine published in Taiwan and America, sold worldwide, with subscriptions including universities in several countries. So yeah, I kind of know something about writing. And your writing is certainly not your strong point.

Secondly, I'm no Goon. Yes, I found your awful attempt at creative work through SA, but I wouldn't pay them US$10 just to use a message board, even if it came with a free blowjob. Consider me an independent contractor.

Thirdly, no, I don't quaterback on Monday mornings from an armchair, largely because there aren't quarterbacks in rugby, and we don't have an armchair in my apartment. Plus I actually have formal experience in at least one element of what I'm criticizing.

So yeah, continue to try the superiority thing, but until you a) know what you're talking about, and b) don't fantasize about fucking animals, it's really not going to amount to much.

Your comic still sucks, by the way.

[identity profile] priestofraven.livejournal.com 2005-11-09 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
*sigh* Typical SA. Always too busy nagging people to death.

[identity profile] strredwolf.livejournal.com 2005-11-09 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a rare few in that crowd that have a brain. I found two who posted in the community LJ.

[identity profile] feral-overture.livejournal.com 2005-11-12 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
You're getting awfully close to evoking Godwin's law here, as you're now off topic. You may end it peacefully here by not posting at all.

How would it be my fault if someone gets antsy and calls someone Hitler?

Look, I'd recommend taking in what your critics say to a certain degree. See, when you post something creative on the net, there will be people who criticize it in one way or another. That's why I personally, if looking for feedback, don't limit it to just friends or family due to the fact they would only compliment my work.
When you post in on the internet, you're open to all sorts of critique; some useful some not. I honestly think I pointed out just a few reasons why your comic attracted negative attention from SA.

[identity profile] strredwolf.livejournal.com 2005-11-12 06:03 am (UTC)(link)
You are now back on-topic with a new thread. Commendable. And no, it's not your fault if someone else evokes Godwin's law. I just don't want to clean up the mess afterwards.

I do agree, and you do seem to be the more sane of the bunch comming from Something Awful. I belive you have gone through the entire archives, and yes, I expected that reaction from Something Awful. Hell, I expected worse -- and was prepared to lock the server down when I saw the responce.

I didn't lock it down. You saw the results yourself on Wensday and Thursday -- I goaded folks on. It was fun.

But to your points above. I can see your statements about the artwork, something I've been slowly (too slowly) working on. The backgrounds are a good idea, and I'll have to start generating various background patterns for the various venues (Shotgun Shells, The PawsTooth, The Embassy, etc). However, I don't see how color will help at all, save for telling one character from another (even though there's about five different clues already). I've also already given up on making sure there's a "gag in every strip" -- not the main intent of the comic, so it's incidental.

[identity profile] sdtetsuo.livejournal.com 2005-11-14 06:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahem, for someone who likes to get all snippy and insulting about other people's purported stupidity, you sure suck at the English language. Ignoring the many fuckups in your original post, it's "invoke" not "evoke." You cannot evoke a law. Plus invoking Godwin's Law != mentioning Nazis.